gnome-session-fallback IS NOT GNOME 2…. it is a new piece of software that try to emulate the old layout… you can’t use gnome 2 plugins in gnome-session-fallback…

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Hi, it is glad to see this in here. But I have question, I can’t get auto login function work well, I mean the gnome shell auto login, and the unity just works right now.

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I think GNOME 3 and Unity look like complete shit. Makes for a completely unusable desktop. God damnit!

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To remove Gnome Classic at login was a mistake. This new look… its hard to find in the menus. I dont want a scroll list of 132 apps displayed as big icons, I want an hierarchical menu system… I will stay with 11.04 on my other computers till problem is fixed.

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Wow… words cannot describe the myriad ways in which this sucks! Oneiric seems to have taken my network engineering workstation and turned it into something I’d expect to see one of my lamer clients using! I never did like Unity. Where are all my indicators? For that matter, what happened to my Network Manager? I had to connect from the command line just to get on and post this. Now I’ve got to revert back to Natty and make sure it works before I go to work this morning. To the developers: nothing personal, and thanks for all your hard work, but I am most definitely not impressed. I agree with GSFDGSG’s post above.

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ubuntu 11.10 is not userfriendly.. shity UI.. :/

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Wowsie, i heart the nu interfase looks jus like my cellfone so it ez 2 me.

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Press Alt+F2 to search by typing, which is what you should have been doing all along. But I agree the changes have been too quick, the new stuff does not support custom shortcuts which makes life total shit.

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The trick to using the panel is to use ALT + Right mouse click to add applets. All the old favourites are there, force quit, weather, Show Desktop, etc. To move and remove items from the panel, ALT + Right mouse click again.

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Further to my previous comment, don’t add Force Quit, it doesn’t work, and I had to reboot as it stopped all other mouse and keyboard responses. I have added weather, Main menu, Type a command, Task switch by icon, and they all work. Cheers

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I truly hate the new look of the GUI.I could not find any of my favorite programs after the upgrade to 11.10. Also no option to reverse the process and to select the Classic GUI.

Why is the classic Gnome GUI completely removed??
I loved the way i had my desktop setup.
Thank You sow very much! Even Microsoft is this stupid in forcing changes on their users.

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I installed Gnome 3… things started well.. it was just different, until you dig a couple layers down.. and then realize that it’s a dog with fleas.

In terms of Unity, I can get used to it, but it’s biggest drawback is the lack of control of the side launcher which is always in your face. It can be configured with compiz, however when you enter the compiz –replace, not all windows are treated equally. Some have title bars and border effects around them, others do not and are locked in the upper left corner. I am looking for the fix.

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Unity and gnome 3 are completely nonfriendly and somewhat unstable.
I cant understand why gnome 2 was removed, shame I have to stick to 11.04 . Hopefully they do something for this

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Poulb Reply:
November 14th, 2011 at 11:55 am

Same here. Nothing is worse than incompleate software. Unity and Gnome 3 are terrible.

If only the choise: “Unity” and “Gnome 3″ in Ubuntu… I have to return to Windows 7… (a very bad solution…)

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Unfortunately, I see this UI as a huge step backwards. The biggest gripe that I have about MS Office 2010 is that they changed the UI so that I can’t find anything. They did not add functionality, they just made it hard to use. With Unity, Ubuntu has done the same thing as MS, just made the system harder to use with no added functionality.
Give me back the option of choosing the old UI. The real old UI and not a simulation of it.
Don’t take my choices away. That’s one of the main reasons that I run Ubuntu, to have choices.

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Eric Cabus Reply:
November 26th, 2011 at 1:39 am

Totally agree. This new UI sucks big time !!

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Sorry for all the work, but it’s a huge mistake to terminate the classic Ubuntu. As a front-end designer I have to tell that Unity is rather ‘clumsy’ it’s not faster to scroll trough all those large icons. Have you guys forgotten the rules of thumb???

Clicking on the ubuntu logo in the Unity Dock:

1: The section dividers on the underside (home, settings, documents & music) are supposed to be on top (remember that this is an extra movement of the mouse, if you decide to choose another section)
2: Your eye has to read from left to right trough all these huge icons and when the app is not there, you have to scroll downwards. So know we are looking up and down too.
3: People do not like it when something is forced upon them and have to learn all over again. Look at the arrogance of Microsoft Office with all their newly implemented icons a few years back, people still don’t like it.

All these extra movements are not an improvement at all. Give people a choice to install ‘ubuntu classic’ like in Ubuntu 11.04 at login, but even that has been removed.

Ok, when it is going to be Unity:
implement a menu structure without the icons, make that an extra option in the compiz desktop manager.
implement an option to scale down those large Unity icons (smaller than 32, because this is still very big)
When you click on an icon, those menu’s with icons should size editable, because they are GIGANTIC.

I hope someone reads this, I’m looking at new other distro’s right know.

Raymond van der Aa

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Hi there! I managed to get my Ubuntu 11.10 to work with classic desktop. Almost love it, but…it only works after loging off, changing desktop and loging on again. I’m looking for a way to obtain the classic desktop working with autologin, has anyone of you found a way to do this?
Unity was not a good choice to me (unstable and annoying).
Thanks a lot in advance, cheers…

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admin Reply:
October 18th, 2011 at 9:07 pm

Hi, Alvarito!

To auto login classic desktop, first enable user auto log-in in User Account. Then run this command in terminal:

sudo /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm-set-defaults -s gnome-classic

I didn’t really know what parameter should be after “-s”, but “gnome-classic” works for me. By the way, if you don’t have gnome-shell installed, use “gnome-shell” after “-s” also auto login gnome classic desktop.

Now, it auto login classic desktop at next boot.

If you change your mind, see: http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-10-how-to-auto-login-gnome-shell-gnome3-desktop

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Alvarito Reply:
October 19th, 2011 at 11:07 am

Thanks a lot, works like a charm. Instead of gnome-classic, the magic was made by gnome-2d.
Cheers!
PS: sure won’t get back to Unity…

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“The trick ALT+RightClick”, Brother, You saved my world!!!
I hope you brought my belief back in GNOME!
I would have died without being able to customize Top and Bottom Panels.
Of course, further examinations are needed to get used to GNOME 3.

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Did you hired some ex Microsoft people or what? This new interface is not good and introduces too much changes. I’ve converted my wife to Ubuntu a couple of months ago and now she’s lost and so am I.
And my mini netbook that was running fast with previous version of ubuntu is now slow like hell. You should ask youselves if you’re doing things for the heck of it or for efficiency. For the heck of it go into research labs.

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Greg Reply:
October 28th, 2011 at 8:00 am

Agreed. Unity is a pain, and my computer runs significantly slower.

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Bring back the classic desktop ;<(

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Like many people I dont want gnome 3 as is, i dont want unity at all, i just want Liberty.

I was considering trying Debian some time ago, now i thinks it’s soon time to switch until something better than unity/gnome3 happends in ubuntu or in some other distrib.

After mklinux, slackware, gentoo and fedora it’s not the first time i switch distrib, but the first time because a distrib forks so badly from his continuum.

Ubuntu is still simple to install and runs on any machine almost without extra work beside the american software license stuff, but the 11.10 beta user interfaces are total bull.

But keep in mind that with ubuntu if we are not using the latest LTS ubuntu version, we are only beta testers.

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Linux means freedom, also means not planed obsolescence.

It is great to improve anything, if it is a real improvement. Also if backwards compatible.

Commercial, not free, software is developed with planed obsolescence in mind, that means that it has an expiration plan in order to sell new versions.
Most of the times the new amazing features are only cosmetic, they are not backwards compatible, the user requires new training. The main goal is to make the sellers richer.

I use and recommend Ubuntu to anyone I know, family, friends, students, people that I meet in business having problems with their computers.
Because ONCE one learn a Linux distribution, one does not need to spend more time learning the new features of every new upgrade.
Ubuntu was easy to use and configure.

All this changed with Ubuntu 11.10 Oneric Ocelot.
It may be very impressive to former users of MacOSX, It may invite Apple owners to change to PC+Linux.
But Apple’s target market is all that crows avid of new gadgets, following the last fashion, buy the more expensive thing as symbol of status, they just want to buy the new, and the new, and the new stuff ….
Very far from the target of the free software movement.

This new Desktop is fine as an option for new users former MaCOS-X users.
But Ubuntu former users need the Classic Ubuntu desktop as a default option. We just want to upgrade an keep working, we do not want to spend lot of time learning how to use the new messy user interface.

Linux needs many improvements in order to be more robust, to improve the management of parallel hardware multi-core and multi-thread CPUs and GPGPUs.
New multimedia alternatives to avoid the threats of proprietary patented software imposed as standard, like the AVCHD in Blu-ray and all new HD video cameras.

The free software community should pay more attention to such things not cosmetic things.

There is a proverb that translated to English says “One should not revise the teeth to a given horse”
it means if you receive a gift you should not look for defects on it.
Ubuntu is free and gratis, but by adhering to this community one is supporting the development of free software, some times collaborating and also donating to that projects.
Thanks to Ubuntu for their software, but please guys do not loose the essence of your existence.

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Ubuntu is becoming like Microsoft, forcing people to use a computer the way THEY think it should be used.

I’ll go back to debian, sorry…

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And I’m moving FORWARD to Debian or Linux Mint Debian Edition (cause 11.10 is a huge step backward)

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I do not have time to re-learn my way around a new desktop every time there is an upgrade. This was the reason I left Microsoft several years ago. Ubuntu is the reason I made this switch in the first place. It was easy to install, looked nice, and just plain worked.

Now I am reading the “horror” stories of Unity and users having to install programs like Force Quit to try and work around the stability problems.

Looks like it may be time for me to look for another Distro. So long, and thanks for all the fish.

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please bring back gnome2, make gnome3 and unity optional for special platforms (netbooks, etc).

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Man, ….. I wish I’d have seen all this before I upgraded to 11.10 I’m thinking I want to fall back to 11.04, or maybe even give Mint a whirl.

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Me too, me too!

I naively upgraded, when the OS offered, from 10.04 LTS. 10.10 was slightly better, 11.04 was slight worse…

but 11.10 IS A DISASTER!!!

Yeah, after spending days configuring the look ‘just the way I want it’, the upgrade came in like a tsunami and washed it all away!!! “Annoying” is such a gross understatement.

Fortunately, I maintain a M$ Wind0ze (7) install side-by-side, to do ‘real’ work! This itself speaks sad volumes about the usability of Linux, in particular, this new Botoxed Ubuntu, for ‘regular’ people.

I’ve already downloaded an ISO of DebIan (Debra and Ian’s OS, the grandparent of Ubuntu)… if Canonical insists on ‘earning’ money by imposing any more ‘dumb-phone’ OSes pretending to be computer OS, they’re dumped for DebIan.

Ciao

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Well, I just now upgraded to 11.10 and I can say that I’m going for linux Mint Debian. With the Unity and Gnome things that 11.10 has integrated, it has lost me once and for all…sometimes enough is enough…

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Unity and Gnome3 are driving me crazy too. I will also switch over to Mint Debian or another distro. I am very unhappy that Ubuntu has gone this way. I think they will loose a lot of users with that crap. I brought lot of users from Windows to Linux with Ubuntu. Lot of them think now to switch to Windows again because of the decreased desktop handling.

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hate unity, tried linux mint, tolerable but,
went back to basics 9.07 server 64
the most stable and configurable os
i’ve ever used, I want my Gnome 2

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I guess its time to go back to 11.04 and wait for my machine to die. What a hassle. What a shame. RIP Ubuntu. It had been fun and you will be missed.

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Good grief. Lots of grief. So everyone defected(!) to Microsoft. 11.10 is probably worse than Windows 7. Everything negative said in the posted entries is not saying nearly enough.

I understand being able to lock things down – I’ve been a systems admin in a large corporation. But locking things down to the point where the system is essentially unusable is too much. Leave options, fellas. Always options.

This is so much of a defect that I have to consider defecting to some other LINUX that acts like Linux when I want it to – not some chiclet piece of wanna-be windows or Mac. That’s why I chose Ubuntu in the first instance – cuz it wasn’t Windows and it wasn’t Mac. But it did(!) work and it provided me an environment to work in (I do development in Java and others, using MySQL).

11.10 is essentially useless for anything but checking e-mail, using Libre instead of Office, and playing games.

While I do that, I do a great deal more. 11.10 doesn’t get my vote and I will have to consider other options for myself and for those who I make recommendations to.

But all that isn’t necessary. Really. 11.04 was/is usable. I suggest taking the hint.

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I so much(!) regret I upgraded to 11.10. Buggy. Barely usable. Can’t even change text background to my favorite light green. Why did I switch …

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Installed 11.10 on my netbook. Unity is useless, have used gnome3 and awn to get round it but gnome3 application menu is a complete waste of space…

I have a power mac and run Ubuntu 11.4 on it… If I want mac I can use mac, I do not need a linux system pretending (badly) to be a mac.

I use Ubuntu for WORK not for messing around on, I need a stable functional OS, not a mess of big silly icons designed for the concentration span challenged media engaged generation… FAIL

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So disappointed in Ubuntu 11.10. I’m unable to continue working without first having to relearn the system again. What a waste of time.

“Force a misbehaving application to quit” icon, freezes my computer completely and the only way out is to restart the PC.

I have been a Unbuntu user since version 6.4 The change in direction may have directed me to another distro.

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I’ve tried several times but CANNOT use Unity without my blood pressure going through the roof. I’ve also tried several times to use Gnome3 but my blood pressure is still going into dangerous levels. I’ve been a software developer for 33 years but have to revert back to something that looks like Gnome2 (either gnome-shell or some distribution with a Gnome2-like GUI).

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I’ve read somewhere (can’t remember exactly where) a tricky stuff about having Gnome 2 on latest 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin.
All in all the jazz was to have a fresh-clean Lucid install with Gnome 2, then moving to Precise with the “dist-upgrade” thingie.
The idea behind this being that it keeps your working Gnome 2 is logical as it sounds to me, but what about compatibility issues…? Will see…

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